Source: Short Side Of Long
- The recently published update of the OECD Leading Economic Indicators "point to diverging patterns across major economies." Eurozone growth rate continues to slow, with Japan joining the recession party. On the other hand, the US continues to grow above par, while China stabilises for now. Germany looks very disappointing while Canadian, Brazilian and Russia growth rates have also turned down. Finally, India is showing no signs of recovery just yet. OECD Total indicator is signalling anaemic global growth only three years into the recovery phase, despite the unprecedented global stimulus as mega trillion dollar cheques were written. In my opinion, since we are at stall speed, it is now only a matter of time until some-event, some-where in the world triggers a cascading slowdown that enters into a global recession, as we find ourselves in the very late cycle of the expansion.
Source: NFIB Small Business Survey
- There has been a lot of discussions towards the Fiscal Cliff and how it is impacting the price of equities. The Media has attributed every sell off and every rally towards the political negotiations in Washington. However, in my opinion, behind the curtains the economic cycle is slowing and companies are now starting to struggle... but bullish investors are not paying attention. Bull market leaders like Apple, are not declining because of the Fiscal Cliff, but as investors forecast disappointment in sales & earnings. This is also evident when we look at the health of small businesses in the US, the backbone of the private sector. In the charts above, we can see clear evidence that the majority of companies are entering a period of slowing sales (anaemic consumer demand) and therefore falling earnings. During the late stage of a business cycle, when earnings start to disappoint, companies start cutting capex plans and begin trimming expenses (including workforce). These factors are bound to contribute towards lower growth and higher unemployment in the coming quarters (lagging indicators). Of course, the US government could step in place of the private sector by increasing its spending deficit to even higher levels. However, with the public's eye on the US government budget thanks to the constant media attention, it seems that it is only a matter of time until the US also enters austerity. It is worth noting that previous rapid collapses in small business earnings lead to a recession in 1990, 2001 and 2008.
- Luxury art dealer Sotheby's has been a leveraged speculative play on asset booms during the reflationary phase of the current secular bear market in equities. While not perfect, the company price itself has also been a great indicator of bull market tops, including the previous peak in 2000 and 2007. It has been my view for awhile that a real equity market top already occurred in May of 2011, just as Sotheby's was peaking in its blow off top phase. After all, the broadest measures of stock prices such as the NYSE Composite, Russell 2000 and Broad Market Value Line have not exceeded their respective 2011 highs. Neither have any of the major global indices such as the STOXX Euro 50, Emerging Markets or Frontier Markets. Therefore, we can assume that the majority, if not all, of the gains have already been squeezed out of the March 2009 bull market. The bulls are being overly bullish for the sake of single digit percentage returns at best, while major downside risks are developing. I do admit that some of these global indices could outperform US equities in the coming quarters, but the question is - will they outperform during an uptrend or a downtrend?
Source: Short Side Of Long
- In the recent weekly sentiment update, I've noticed that NAAIM (National Association of Active Investment Managers) showed extremely bullish exposure towards the stock market. Not only was the overall exposure the highest since the May 2011 market peak, but more importantly the number of managers positioned towards the short side was at 0%, indicating an overwhelming complacency. This is confirmed by the recent Investor Intelligence Survey, where bearish advisor readings have not ticked up since the October 2011 bottom. It seems to me that fund managers are all in, while advisors remain complacent.
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I think it is time for another Precious Metals update. The last post I did on this subject was way back on October 20th, with a conclusion that "in a bull market, we are meant to be buying (sounds simple, but many forget this basic rule). However, I won't just buy at any point or any price. I would like to see some or maybe even all of the following criteria, before I add further funds to this asset class:
- sentiment surveys falling below neutrality (currently too high)
- hedge fund reducing futures positioning (currently on high side)
- market open interest speculation declining (rose too rapidly)
- retail crowd hot money leaving ETFs (currently too high)
- increase in ETFs short interest ratio activity (currently too low)
- large Put purchase levels relative to Calls (currently too low)
Finally, a major buy signal would be to see some of the consensus bloggers and technical analysts, who were predicting $1900 Gold as recently as a few weeks ago, to start doubting Gold's uptrend because their Elliot Wave counts, cycle frameworks and various technical indicators break down rapidly." So the goal of today's post is to check up on the PMs sector and see if any of the criteria listed above is currently in development.
Source: Short Side Of Long
The prices of Gold and Silver have been in consolidation mode since late September, when I stated that "from their respective lows during the summer bottoming phases Gold has rallied 14%, Platinum has rallied 20%, Palladium has rallied 22% and Silver has rallied 30%. Precious Metals have now become overbought from the near term perspective and sentiment has risen towards extremes again. Elliot Wave shows that the Daily Sentiment Index, measuring the short term view of future traders, records 90% bulls on Gold and 92% bulls on the Silver. Therefore, I would pull back from purchasing any Precious Metals right now, until we see some kind of a consolidation or a correction."
Many gold bulls, who were predicting almost vertical rises in PMs sector and especially Gold Miners, have been disappointed with the relatively muted price action. The chart above thanks to COT report also shows that hedge funds and other speculators have not been shaken out just yet, as they continue to hold decent exposure in Gold and quite extreme exposure in Silver. Positioning in Platinum and Palladium is also quite extreme, so all in all, speculative money still dominates the PMs space. Unfortunately, the contrarians amongst us will have to wait longer and possibly put up with lower prices, before weak hands flee the market and a bottoming process re-starts.
Source: SentimenTrader / Short Side Of Long
However, not all is lost. There are signs that sentiment has dropped significantly in other indicators, as traders fear lower prices. According to the latest Hulbert Gold Sentiment Index, newsletter advisors are recommending one of the lowest exposures to Gold since at least August of this year. The average client now holds about 6.3% net long exposure as of earlier in the week, when Gold traded at 1712. Recent price falls might have pushed this reading into "extreme pessimism" territory.
Source: Bar Chart / Short Side Of Long
Furthermore, while the Daily Sentiment Index was registering readings of 90% bulls and higher in late September, as of Friday Gold's DSI stood at only 10% bulls. This is a similar reading to early November when sentiment readings dropped to single digits. While this might not indicate a bottom straight away, it is alerting us about the short term consensus outlook for lower prices. Since we do not want to follow the consensus into selling, our goal should be to stay alert and buy low when others capitulate.
In my opinion, a sharp drop towards $1650 would create short term panic selling and would also knock off a lot of stop losses around the $1670 area. At this point sentiment would also reach single digits, indicating Gold is ripe for a buy. I actually know of a few newsletter writers and bloggers who are praying that Gold does not go lower than $1670, as it would force them to cut their underwater positions, which were opened in October at much higher prices.
Source: Schaeffers Research / Short Side Of Long
Moving right along, we turn our focus towards GLD and SLV ETFs. When I look at the recent Short Interest data, I see a lot of disbelief in the Precious Metals sector by the retail community. Remember that ETFs are easily accessible to all traders around the world and therefore have the ability to gauge what the retail crowd is doing (not just thinking). Consider the fact that we currently have 23.8 million shares sold short in GLD at a ratio of 3.4% against the float and 19.2 million shares sold short in SLV at a ratio of 1.9% against the float. Comparing that to historical data tells us that the short interest ratio as a % of float is currently very high, especially in Gold. The retail crowd has become too bearish and has sold a lot of shares in expectation of lower prices. Now, compare the recent data to the mega rally we saw during August of this year, which occurred as traders held 21.8 million short sales in GLD at a ratio of 2.8% against the float and 14.8 million short sales in SLV at a ratio of 2.0% against the float. What eventually follows is a short squeeze, but once again it is worth mentioning that this does not automatically mean we will see higher prices ahead.
Source: Short Side Of Long
Staying on the topic of ETFs, I always like to monitor the GLD fund flows over a 4 week rolling time frame. What usually tends to indicate an intermediate bottom is a few weeks of selling, where several billion dollars or more flows out of the ETF. We haven't seen anything like that since early November, when the price of Gold was at $1670 and the price of Silver dipped below $31. But it is also worth mentioning that inflows have been rather muted too. Since late September, when just about every man and his dog expected Gold to hit $1900, fund inflows have been non-existent.
Source: Short Side Of Long
As I look at the price action of Gold and Silver, I would like to make two basic observations. First of all, on a yearly percentage basis, both Gold and Silver became oversold during the summer of this year as they both reached 1.5 standard deviations on the downside and now they seem to be in recovery mode. Second of all, the price of Gold and Silver fell below the 200 MA as prices became oversold (less so in Gold) and here too we seem to be experiencing a recovery. Going forward, it will be important for both metals to hold their 200 MAs as respect towards the uptrend... so far so good. However, if the price was to fall below this line properly on a weekly closing basis in the future, it will indicate that the PMs still remain in a corrective phase of the secular bull market.
Source: Short Side Of Long
I believe the Gold Mining sector also holds a few clues for us. As I go extensively through the breadth chart, thanks to the SentimenTrader website, I notice a lot of similarities to the way Gold Miners bottomed in late 2008 and re-started a new bull market in early parts of 2009. Back than we saw extremely oversold readings on the Summation Index which eventually broke out. We saw a prolonged period of time where the number of miners trading above the 200 MA remained close to 0% and finally we saw a huge selling climax where over 75% of the sector made 52 week new lows. Looking at the chart above, one could conclude that the bottoming process between May and August 2012 holds a lot of similarities, including what technical analysts would say is a "re-test of the downtrend line". Furthermore, the Gold Miners BPI is not overbought anymore as readings have fallen from 72% in September towards 34% today. Intermediate bottoms usually occur as readings fall below 25% or less, so maybe more selling is necessary in the short term, but in the long term Gold Miners could surprise on the upside in 2013 out of the current oversold levels.
Since the article I wrote in late September, I have not really bought any major positions in this sector. I continue to wait for an opportunity which meets my criteria and the list remains basically the same:
- sentiment surveys falling below neutrality (already there but could be lower)
- hedge fund reducing futures positioning (still too high for my liking)
- market open interest speculation declining (early signs of improvement)
- retail crowd hot money leaving ETFs (early signs of improvement)
- increase in ETFs short interest ratio activity (already there and ripe for buying)
- large Put purchase levels relative to Calls (early signs of improvement)
As one can see, we eminently have more improvements within the PMs sector, as speculation is slowly leaving. However there still too many weak hands holding onto positions, which were purchased at higher prices in hopes of easy money. These are the players that need to be shaken out, because as soon they get stopped out, the price will rise and it is these traders who usually push prices even higher as they chase once again. Their motto, as traders, is to buy high and sell higher, unlike the motto of an investor which is to buy low and sell high. Finally, as a disclosure I have not sold any of my PMs positions, but I still do not see an outright buy signal to jump in and add more capital to this sector.
Trading Diary (Last update 09th of December 12)
- Economic Outlook: The global economy continues to slow towards a recession, as we find ourselves in the very late cycle of the expansion. United States growth is anaemic, while the Eurozone and Japan are in a recession. German CEOs see the business cycle moving deeper into a downturn with a high probability of a recession, with Japanese business confidence continuing to shrink. Chinese growth remains slow, with a massive credit bubble lingering in the background. Most likely, a hard landing will not be avoided.
- Equities: Short positions are held in various US equity sectors, which include Dow Transports (IYT), Technology (XLK), Discretionary (XLY) and Industrials (XLI). Large put options have been bought on Apple (AAPL). Call options have been sold on Homebuilders (XHB), JP Morgan (JPM), Amazon (AMZN), IBM (IMB), Commonwealth Bank (CBA), Adidas (ADS) and others.
- Bonds: There isn't a lot of exposure in the bond space, as we believe this sector is experiencing euphoric investor demand. Call options have been sold on Junk Bonds (HYG). Plans to short Long Bond Treasuries (TLT) in due time.
- Currencies: Long positions are held in Japanese Yen (FXY). Short positions are held in Australian Dollar (FXA). The trade is now essentially short Aussie / Yen cross. Put options have been bought on British Pound (FXB) & Canadian Dollar (FXC). Put options have been sold on Japanese Yen (FXY).
- Commodities: Long positions are held in various commodity sectors, which include Silver (SLV, SIVR, PSLV, Comex futures), Agriculture (RJA, JJA) and Sugar (SGG). Plans to increase longs in PMs and Softs in due time.
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Thank You for your deep analysis, Tiho.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you - probably, we have not got buying opportunity yet.
I am also putting attention on:
- CEF NAV premium - now exists
- right (or "sweet" gold miners performance versus HUI - now bad. The public informed about true value of the different mining stocks are not in play.
- Gold miners BPI - oversold, but not reversed yet. (This is important, because BPI tracks the breakout of important levels per p&f parameters)
But the most important in my opinion is the absence of the deliveries from registered comex vaults. So, now there is not physical activity at all, just speculative flouncing. And physical activity is always very important for the gold bottoming process.
Speaking of Hubert sentiment index is, in my opinion a little bit less contrarian than gold commodity sentiment index (sentimentrader) or Market vane. So, this kind of divergence is not bullish sign for me. But may be it is not so important, of course.
@Alex,
ReplyDeletefor "deliveries from registered comex vaults", do you mean this?
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/COMXSIL:IND
@Tiho
you discuss usually the COT distribution. In every gold/silver bug site, those data are reported and examined with great detail. This fact would not put the predictive vale of COT on question?.
Best. Santiago
Hey Tiho nice thoughts about gold. I have one questions ?
ReplyDeleteETF short position you extract from Schaeffers Research, are free ? In this case, in which part of the web they are ?
Tiho or anyone else can recommend any interesting (not so crowded interesting blog) like this one?....
Thanks !!
You can go to the main page of Shaeffers and find there "GET QUOTE" space in the right side on top. Just type GLD and press GET QUOTE. You will receive few indicators. Scroll down and you will see Short interest.
Deletedirect link
http://www.schaeffersresearch.com/streetools/filters/equity_si.aspx?TICKER=GLD
Alex answered the question very well! Thank you.
DeleteThanks you both !
DeleteTo Santiago. I do not know this bloomberg chart. It seems not very useful and not enough clear.
ReplyDeleteHere is better link. It is exactly registered comex gold vaults. More data and clear scale in millions of troy ounces.
http://www.24hgold.com/english/interactive_chart.aspx?title=COMEX%20WAREHOUSES%20REGISTERED%20GOLD&etfcode=COMEX%20WAREHOUSES%20REGISTERED&etfcodecom=GOLD
Here is the same for silver
http://www.24hgold.com/english/interactive_chart.aspx?title=COMEX%20WAREHOUSES%20REGISTERED%20SILVER&etfcode=COMEX%20WAREHOUSES%20REGISTERED&etfcodecom=SILVER
Please note only registered vaults are representative, because only registered vaults are able to be delivered for the customers.
You can also type on google "metal depository statistics" and get two comex links for gold and silver which open detailed excel spreadsheet with dayly activity.
And also you can visit brilliant Harvey Organ blog. He explain all deliveries each day by text.
@Alex,
Deletethanks a lot for the links. I appreciate it. Looks like the GOLD chart correlates better with bottoms. Without any doubt an interesting and different way to look at the PM markets.
Thanks as well for the reference to Harvey. Indeed, I've passed through it several times, but too quickly, I'll pay now more attention since he looks like an experienced guy.
Best. Santiago
What other sentiment indicators can I revise in stockcharts like $BPGDM ??
ReplyDeleteNice blog by the way
Just the same for s&p, ndx, tsx, nyse. But it is not sentimen indicator in the pure sence of the word. It is just summation percent of the bullish stocks per point and figure parameters of price movements. So it is general technical picture. It reflects sentiments indirectly not more... But not less.
DeleteIt is a breadth measure of how many stocks are giving an uptrend / buy signal on a point & figure chart out of the overall index. The job of the indicator is to measure the participation rate of components of an index during an uptrend and downtrend in overall index price, but at extremes it can and should be used as a contrarian indicator. Therefore, it has more than one purpose / use.
DeleteLooking for divergencies in relative highs and lows for example ?
Deleteanother date pointing to a top
ReplyDelete“Financials and utilities have tended to underperform in the months leading up to bull market peaks, while consumer discretionary and consumer staples have outperformed.”
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/cult-of-the-professional-is-alive-and-well-2012-12-12?siteid=
Best. Santiago
Tiho,
ReplyDeleteIt is clear with how you logically use sentiment and avoid getting fooled by QE hype, who is and who is not the smart money in the PM space.
Also I want to correct something that since Dec 15, 2011 at least one prominent blogger, who thought 2012 would be one of the worst in the history of US, has been talking about how gold would enter a bubble phase in 2012. And how the gold miners would outperform this year when in reality he and his subscribers have been catching a falling knife for 2012. He also made fun with how Soros and Gartman got knocked off the gold bull but still fails to realize who was actually the smart money in 2012.
I do like your approach to investing. Good blog.
Alexander M - thank you for the extra points on the PMs sector and your opinions as well. Greatly appreciated.
ReplyDeleteSantiago - If other sites use segregated COT reports and it works for them, that is good news. As for me, I keep things simple.
agtrader - very kind words, so thank you. When I started investing the first thing I got taught was that "common sense is not so common" in financial markets. So, yes it is important to use logic and not be sweated away by the mob & hype.
I will also be updating the Important Charts section sometime in the next day or two. It is very time consuming to update it weekly, so I try and do one update per each month.
ReplyDeleteFinally, I would also like to make one observation before I go:
ReplyDeleteThe Australia Dollar is now being dubbed "the new Swiss Franc", as its volatility falls to 16 year low as hedge funds pile into bullish bets at all time record levels. While majority of people do not really care what happens with the Aussie Dollar or the Swiss Franc, for a contrarian investor like me, this is very disturbing. Why? Because these types of comments are usually made near investment cycle tops and the Aussie Dollar has a very high correlation with the S&P 500, especially out of the March 2009 bottom.
Furthermore, let us not forget that hedge funds and other speculators have now increased their Aussie longs vs Yen shorts (carry trade barometer) to record levels too, as the VIX itself remains below 2 decade historical average for a prolonged period of time. Complacency is the everywhere. One important thing to understand is that Aussie Yen cross exchange correlates very closely, if not almost perfectly with the MSCI World Equity Index.
How ironic that this ludicrous definition comes at a time when the SNB is sowing the seeds of its own currency's demise...
DeleteThanks for the update,
ReplyDeleteI didn't see any reference to the pending cliff negotiations as a possible near term catalyst for Gold. Can you shed any light here?
Kind regards
Michael
I do not pay any attention to the politicians nor the Fiscal Cliff saga. I am more concerned with what the market is doing.
DeleteTiho,
ReplyDeleteHave you viewed / read any of the suggested trades / market direction from Forex Kong? I am curious as to your thoughts - and wether the tow of you line up at all - as I have been watching, and his navigation of the markets seems quite incredible.
Tiho,
ReplyDeleteExcellent article as usual.
One question.... you say at 1,650 gold would be ripe to buy. It's 1,690 now so as you are bullish long term on metals does 2% make much difference? Surely only a drop to 1,650 is only any good if it panics sellers and drives the price down more?
I subscribe to smartmoney trader who uses sentiment to follow the smartmoney but I've never seen someone explain sentiment and trading strategy as well as you. Great job.
ReplyDeleteTiho,
ReplyDeleteWhat is funny with what you wrote here is that just a few weeks ago Gary was talking about how miners would enter the bubble phase like the dot com stocks during the 2000 and instead they collapsed because of earnings in October.
Fortunately, I have learned that whenever an analyst talks like that and believe that tulips are worth more then what is reasonable, I turn the other way. And I agree with you soon we will get a very nice buying opportunity for the miners.
I'm not anyone takes Gary too seriously at this point. He said Gold would be 1900 and HUI near 600 by Sept in the summer. Then in Sept he promised Gold would be 1900 and HUI would be near 600 by Dec. Now in his latest blog, apparently Gary is now T Boone Pickens and has managed to call the exact bottom in Nat Gas. Too bad he chose to put his subscribers in mining stocks which tanked whereas natgas is up well over 100%.
DeleteAlso his two best predictions from late 2011 just look plain silly
- 2012 would go down as one of the worst in the history of the US
- Gold and miners would enter the bubble phase in 2012
I just read that post now. What a clown - Natgas rallied today and gold is still flat. Next post he will say that Gold is waiting for SPX to breakout to new highs before it can rally.
DeleteWho the hell is this Gary guy you keep talking about
DeleteThis is his public site http://www.smartmoneytracker.blogspot.ca/
DeleteBut his subscription site is where the action is at. For weeks (after the collapse in miners) he has been saying this is "sentiment" that forms bottoms. And yet the miners continue to sell. Now his members are fuming but he simply blocks them from posting. I use him as a contrarian signal as he is too bullish on gold to know who to read the market.
personally i have been short the GDX for a long time and think it is a very bad investment. The large miners are in serious trouble. GDXJ may be a better idea but why even bother. I can hear the money being sucked into this GDX thing and the rich fat cats laughing. Fucking joke.
Deleteok just looked at Gary Savage's blogs. Larry Williams a 52 year old veteran will tell you something very important in this business. "Trust but Verify!" so true there are so many scams and ways to separate you from your money.
DeleteI see good level in this blog, very good...
ReplyDeletewhich site do you guys use to follow the advance/decline line for the market breath ?
thanks in advance for your comments
Nikkei is slaying (or sleighing) it again. Anyone else besides me been riding the Nikkei wave?
ReplyDeleteI'm not long the Nikkei right now. I have actually been long the Yen from a month ago and that has not done anywhere as well as your Nikkei bet. Having said that, I do not like stocks right now everywhere in the world and I have no exposure to stocks. But if I was going to buy anything I would have bought Shanghai Composite or Nikkei 225 as they are oversold. Even Vietnam is extremely oversold too. Having said that I remain short US equities.
DeleteTiho a long Nikkei is a short yen trade. As the currency depreciates the stock market usually rallies in response. Yen is extremely oversold and due for a bounce but fundamentals are not looking good for the yen long term.
DeleteAnonymous,that's just the usual "common knowledge",not backed by any facts.Apart from the fact that a strong currency is actually beneficial to an economy(macroeconomic theory 101)and that supply (central bank and banking cartel) and demand (society's fluctuating demand for money) drive the long-term value of money more than anything else, there are many variables that influence both stocks and currencies at any point in time, such that it's impossible to make any such generalizations.Just look at the recent history of Japan:how come that from circa Jan 2000 to circa Jan 2002 the Nikkei was cut in half whilst the USDJPY cross went from 105 to 135?And this is far from being a cherry-picked example,both with regard to Japan and other countries.
DeleteThe only generalization that can be made(and that in any case is far from being a viable investing tool per se)is that during periods of economic growth(secular bull markets)society's demand for money tends to decrease/stay at rather low levels, whilst during period of economic turmoil(secular bear markets)said demand is likely to increase/stay at elevated levels. Now one has to figure which kind of money the market is likely to focus on during the latter periods.Sticking to gold generally proves to be a good bet(as much as sticking to it during the former periods proves to be a bad one).Choosing other currencies might work from time to time, but there needs to be careful examination of a great variety of factors(such as current account/capital flows/carry trade-market participants' positioning/central bank's policy/fiscal-debt situation etc.). Currently I would argue that the Yen offers a very good risk/reward proposition,notwithstanding the fact that the long term situation is simply unsustainable.Re the Nikkei:I do not know whether it will go up or it will go down,but I would not bet on an exporting country's stock market right on the brink of a global recession(incidentally,that's why I think that the Dax makes for an outstanding short right now).
http://www.contrarian-investor.com/inflation-hedge.html
DeleteDefinitely agree with you. Thanks for the reply. In the link above you can see the Argentina and Mexico examples. Stocks did well but didnt catch up to the currency collapse. My observation is just recent. When ever the yen goes down the Nikkei seems to go up. How long this will last I dont know.
The last 10 years:
Deletehttp://stooq.com/q/?s=jpy_i&d=20121218&c=10y&t=l&a=lg&b=1&r=^nkx
PAT
Tacking on some more... Santa delivers!
DeleteStock Rocket - no I have read any of it. I have read your post on just about every blog promoting that site. That is about all I've read.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous December 18 @ 12:35 AM - yes you are right, Gold might be a buy today at $1700 or at $1650 in a couple of weeks. It might go down even further or it might go up from here. I am not really a prophet so I do not know what will happen, but I rather buy when indicators line up, than to buy now. Besides, I already own a lot of PMs so Im just going to sit tight for now.
Anonymous December 18 @ 1:12 AM - thank you for the nice words.
Today Mauldin's newsletter on Gold and today's action of Gold my create the base of a negative sentiment towards PM sector.
ReplyDeleteSantiago
Which part of the newsletter are you talking about? I don't see it?
DeleteMarket surely isn't nice lately for someone long PM, short equities, long yen and short AUD ...
ReplyDeleteno it isn't but it has been awesome if you are short GDX. Don't know why everyone so freaking bulled up on silver and gold with a recession around the corner and the dollar at the lows. Seems like a stupid trade.
DeleteTo Santiago about COT data question. It is the question not so easy to reply.
ReplyDeleteThe predictive value of COT data is not so sensitive for wide public discussion.
Here the reasons:
1. COT data is more about risk management and the reverse probability and it does not provide simple “buy signal” for the majority of retail specs trend-followers, who always wish to gain «here and now», always with low risk tolerance (stop losses).
2. COT is released in weekly basis and with 3-day lag.
3. In additional, as you can see link below public interest for “gold COT” is constant and not rising.
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=gold%20cot
When public interest are starting to rise and explode it will be time to worry about the predictive value.
But of course COT is not something like ideal market indicator. It can be manipulated very simple. For example any commercial player can of course create another hedge-fund and load up long position via this vehicle. (Something like Bretton James with his Locust fund in brilliant Wall-Street-2) But COT data will indicate only official commercial position.
In this case very important is the concordance of the COT data with the other measures. And today COT is not contradict at all with other very important measures.
Alex,
Deletevery impressive answer. Indeed that's the most clear description of COT I've read.
Let's hope this bull does not stop.
Thanks again. Santiago
My crystal ball said it's risk on again
ReplyDeleteIt predicted end of correction on November 19th well, so I expect more upside again.
I think current market environment closely resembles end of 2005, so next few months will be really hard for bears. QE3 is apparently working.
AnonymousDecember 19, 2012 5:31 AM
ReplyDeleteMarket surely isn't nice lately for someone long PM, short equities, long yen and short AUD ...
Haha, that is for sure! I was actually talking to my investors and business partners lately about that. Right now the current positioning is very unfavourable for my fund. Let me also say that you also forgot to add Grains and Sugar in there too, as they have been average performers recently too.
However, I count my performance when I close my positions at the finish line and its still early days. So we will see how I went into 2013 and 2014...
A technical argument to the bullish view of sugar
ReplyDeletehttp://peterlbrandt.com/why-i-believe-sugar-may-be-one-of-2013s-big-bull-moves/
Indeed, the sugar Stock to use ratio that appears at the PDF looks convincing.
Best. Santiago
I went long about 3 weeks ago on this commodity. I am quite happy to wait as i believe the upside potential is a far larger multiple than the downside.
DeleteIt is nice to see both Tiho & Peter are both positive on the commodity, but i would always use a stop loss in case i am proved wrong.
Phil.
This continues to be a strong bull rally since the Nov 16 low of 1343. The pivot point that I am looking at, which is the Sept 14 high of 1474 would bring this rally to a 9.75% total. Is the economy really that strong to justify this rally going up another 10% beyond that and make it a 20% rally? If the S&P gets to 1500 then that would mean a total rally from the Nov 16 low of 11.7 percent. I don't like fighting the Fed.I consider the market to be news driven right now and that there are seasonal factors, such as year end buying by institutions, that are propelling this market. If in January the reports on earnings come out poorly then things will change quickly. That is what I am expecting. If I am wrong and companies start showing strong and growing earnings across the board that propels stocks past the 1474 pivot point, then I will have to declare my expectations to be wrong.At the end of a bull market there often is a strong market as the late-comers finally arrive at the party and drink of the punch bowl. Sentiment gets out of control. Retail purchasers wake up from their doldrums. Maybe we are getting to that point, and maybe not. I am inclined to think that it won't be until mid-January and possibly as late as the end of January before we know if this four year bull market is going to come to a nasty end. It will all depend on the next series of earnings reports. Hence, I remain still with my current hedged positions and will continue to watch and wait for a while longer. I am looking to see what kind of "deal" is made on taxes. I still believe that higher taxes will hurt the economy going forward. A weaker economy going forward will result in poorer earnings for corporations. Lower earnings for corporations going forward will reduce market sentiment for stocks. Hence, a lower market going forward. The tough part of this is the timing as it always in when it comes to stock market investing and trading. Mainly because I am having difficulty gauging exactly when corporate earnings are going to start showing sufficient downside pressure or stress, so that projected lower earnings will be priced into the stock of the underlying company. If I am wrong and it turns out that higher taxes will promote further growth in the economy, which I don't believe it ever has, then I will have to change my way of thinking about the stock market, and simply join the bandwagon. But having been a contrarian for decades now, I doubt that I will be joining the present market enthusiasm that is being led by its primary cheerleader, CNBC and the folks it brings on who like to talk up their own book.If the market corrects, it will take most, if not all, stocks down with it. Some stocks will correct more than others, as has always been the case. It will depend on the individual stock.This may sound overly simplistic to most reading this, but frankly, this is the essence of investing and trading. Knowing these basic rules of the market is essential. The appearance of what on the surface appears and sounds like a simplistic view, is really based on a more complex understanding of how the stock market and the underlying stock prices work in relation to the economy. That applies in all areas, whether it be law, physics or anything else. A true understanding comes when one can take complex subjects and break them down into a simple formula. At the end of the day, I believe that stock investing and trading can be reduced to these simple terms, overall, as I have described them above. The real trick, of course, is applying these principles properly on a day in and day out basis, and in a year in and year out basis, when it comes to specific stock selection and generalized market timing.I believe that this is going to be a tricky time in the stock market for the next four to eight weeks. I am not inclined to believe that we are gong to have a raging bull market on the heels of a four year bull market. March, 2013 will mark the anniversary of this four year bull market. It is time to remain patient and vigilant.
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ReplyDeleteAlmost 100% of the times, bull markets keep making new highs every 3 years. Silver looks really broken and I doubt it will even go to $40 by 2014. The problem is that sentiment get really hot when silver rises 10% and then we tank 20% to reset sentiment. Silver's done and it's bull looks to be over. Please beware.
The 1970s bull market disagrees...
DeleteSilver was $26 in the summer it is now $31. Thats a 20% rise if you bought at the bottom. It peaked at $34.50 a couple of months ago, so a 50% retracement isnt bad.
DeleteIf you look further behind the price, there is lots of accumulation, you just need to know where to look...
So what is all this Gary bashing - are his subscribers venting here because he has blocked them from posting on his site?
ReplyDeletearrjd - thank you for your comments and in depth analysis. It is very appreciated.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - thank you for your outlook. All I can say is that if you think PMs bull market is over, you should definitely should not invest into PMs. There are plenty of assets in the world you can chose to put your capital into.
Here is a quick update and a few observations:
ReplyDelete- Equities: The rest of the world has been outperforming the US equities, which I think are extremely overbought. S&P 500 has managed a gain of 114% from its March 2009 lows and is now overdue for a major correction and a bear market. The question is when will it start. While I cannot answer that, I have been watching the VIX recently as it refuses to make new lows. To me, on the weekly chart, the VIX seems like it is ready to break out any week now. Furthermore, bull market leaders like Apple have most likely topped and I think hold more downside. With Apple topping there is a high probability S&P 500 has already topped or is about to do so with some minor lag...
- Precious Metals: Gold's sentiment in the short term is starting to get very bearish right now. While that doesn't mean we will automatically rally, it gives us bulls a contrarian signal. Daily Sentiment Index (DSI) recorded only 10% bulls on Monday, 10% bulls on Tuesday and 9% bulls yesterday. Silver's DSI hit 10% bulls yesterday. Technically both Gold and Silver are oversold from the short term point, so a bounce is now possible. Furthermore, there are now 7% of stocks above the 50 day MA in the GDX ETF, which is also quite oversold too.
- Currencies: hedge funds are obsessed with the Aussie Dollar as positioning continues to rise to all time record highs. We have similar type of positioning in the New Zealand Dollar as well. These currencies look prone to a sell off anyway now, but obvious that is my own opinion as many disagree. Finally, my purchases on the Yen were definitely mistimed as the currency has fallen another 5% from my purchase. Luckily for me, I do not use leverage so a 5% move isn't something to kill yourself over, but nonetheless it is not nice. Currently the Daily Sentiment Index on the Japanese Yen sits at 7% bulls, which is the lowest reading in 7 and half years. I think at least a bounce is coming up from these extremely oversold readings.
- Bonds: Stay away from Junk Bonds! *smile*
Tiho,
DeleteYou have read martin armstrongs work on the precious metals.
Hows that silver position down 4% in one day.
That silver position is fine. It will be fine it silver goes down 30% from here. I'm not selling my silver at any price as governments will keep debasing currencies. Historically gold and silver has always protected smart money from currency debasement so I plan to follow history. I'm not sure what you are doing or if you are holding dollars, but when prices goes down like this and there is panic, I urge investors to buy more!
DeleteAll comments here are welcome regarding markets regardless of if they are a compliment to the blog or a criticism against it. Nothing will be removed as long as it has financial subject. Comments and spams regarding random websites for porn or other rude material will be automatically removed for the sake of the younger people who might be visit this site. *smile*
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ReplyDeleteHere is what Martin Posted for free on his blog Decmber 7th:
Gold has been unable to get through the Bullish Reversals in the 1800 area. Even our Quarterly Bullish stands at 1955. The Daily Bearish is 16880 and a close below that will signal a test of support first at the underlying Minor Weekly Bearish found at 16480, 16160, and 15795.Once again, it is timing that counts. Gold is not going to be ready for prime time until the fat lady sings in Europe.
In the Dow, the Daily Bullish stands at 1333900 followed by 1360610. The Weekly Bullish stand at 1369790. Here we have timing target the weeks of 12/17 and 12/31.
Th interesting aspect is that liquidity has shrunk. This is a serious issue for as governments do not respect the rule of law, many are now hoarding cash rather than investing in anything. This will shift in 2013, so pay attention to volumes.
I really like your blog! Sorry about the silver comment i have been there. The main thing you have wrong is the Yen. I am a precious metals bull and looking to buy in january.
ReplyDeleteI find it extremely strange, how people that pretend to be experts on precious metals trading and investing, do not mention India and its current account and trade of balance problems. The only investor and trader that comments and views make sense, is Jim Rogers. I have read many newsletters, paid and unpaid, I follow many hedge funds and traders working from their homes but when I read comments like the one, that people will buy in January or that they know something only because of sentiment, it drives me crazy. People, please realize that the world is in 3D, you can't trade and invest only by looking at one part of the puzzle. Why would someone want to buy gold in January if Indian politicians decide to increase the import tax by 5%? Or if they decide to sell state gold to fix their current account problem? In order to make money, you have to stop screaming that Central banks are printing money and we will enter hyperinflation. Fundamentals are always the most important. Let me clear you this. Gold is an asset, as such, its driven by supply and demand. When we analyze the demand, the investment one goes last as of importance not first. Why? Because if the biggest buyer of gold in the world: India, stops buying, the investment demand will follow and will intensify the the problem. Its obvious that supply is not running fast enough, but think about India. I know that people will say: China. That's true that they will continue buying more but these things don't happen overnight, while Indian change of policy will probably happen. When you do an analysis on the Indian balance issues you will realize that they have no choice but to limit the purchases of gold from abroad. Why? Because you can't cut food purchases, neither oil, while gold does nothing for the economy. The current account problems leads to weak currency, which makes gold even more expensive, so people should be not surprised why Indian purchases collapsed. This is also the reason why gold is so weak. Money printing flows to assets that have positive fundamentals and push them higher and above means. The problem is that gold's fundamentals are not rosy due to India. If you believe India is not important, you must be insane. If you believe that DSI low readings mean anything, you are wrong. Why? Because we bought their database and tested it, and our conclusion is that its not enough to trade based on DSI. It is one part of the puzzle. 1. You need negative sentiment. DSI shows it with 10% bulls only, but what about COT ? COT shows many positive positions and a world full of bulls. 2. Gold had awesome upside since 2009, isn't it too hot? Check ETF holdings. Sentiment must be combined with fundamentals. Negative sentiment with bad fundamentals mean that gold might stay oversold for a long time and can go down much more. If you buy it as insurance, you might argue, it doesn't matter. Yes, that's true, but then it doesn't matter if you will buy at 1650 or 1700 or in January or today. So you must decide if you trade, invest or need insurance. If you do need insurance, just buy some and stop talking that you know anything. If you trade, good luck. If you invest, at least mention about Indian's current account problem. I find it strange that people like Gary, Peter Schiff, Eric Sprott are always bulls but never warn new comers. I know that Eric Sprott is just selling his book and even though the direction long-term is up, it not a good idea to stay in flat or down market for 1-2 years as it will destroy your long-term returns and compounding power. This is definitely not the way to invest. So, exactly as Jim Rogers did, I want to also warn you that gold might be oversold according to DSI, but check COT and Indian trade issues, which can only be fixed by limiting gold purchases from abroad.
ReplyDeleteTiho just so you know the most highly leveraged metals traders on Gary's site have apparently thrown in the towel just like you predicted. They still stubbornly hold their long unleveraged positions though. It is funny how well you can read this market sometimes. Anyway I took a small position today in the miners today using their sell signal as contrarian indicator but will hold off until you see sentiment shift.
ReplyDeleteAnd Poly's site is all out too. They have been trying to trade miners and metals most of the year and keep getting handed big losses. I'm starting to think none of these analyst know what they are doing - Gary is in denial and Poly is basically clueless at this point.
DeleteYes Ive heard actually. Gary emailed me last night. He also told me he is in the stock market now too, while he blamed his cycle framework failures on Chinese manipulations. I think that sounds like a story straight out of ZeroHedge. Thank you for the heads up.
DeleteBy the way, I want to say that those traders aren't clueless. They're good at what they do, but this game is very very hard. The problem from what I see, and I luckily have a cycle subscription to Docs site, is the fact that they follow cycles like a religion without to much freedom and leeway. It works well during rising trends, like from October 2008 until August 2011, when Gold peaked at $1900 but these cycle frameworks have failures time and time again during sideways movements and corrections. They acknowledge that as no system is perfect and if they stay persistent I know eventually they will be profitable in this Gold bill market. However, I wouldn't be so systemic with these frameworks myself, as it reminds me of another form of a technical system similar to Elliot Wave. It is just next flexible enough. Either way I wish them all good luck and many profits in the future.
DeleteYou stay classy buddy :)
DeleteFair points Tiho. I'm probably being too hard on them. But as a past subscriber I'm a bit annoyed at both of these analysts because I paid them for an investment advice and they are as good as I am at losing my money. Interesting reports but I think the only people who made money in the gold sector in 2012 are shorts and newsletter writers. Maybe 2013 they will be rock stars.
DeleteFred,
DeleteIt hasn't been an easy year (2012) for Cyclist and I'm the first to report this. The Cycles have simply been very short in amplitude, this basically means that the trends have been short, no clear trend was allowed to develop. It's not only Cycles, any trend following system had a bad year in 2012.
But clueless might be a little harsh, I've used some pretty tight risk mgmt and stopped out of trades. If stepping aside while the market (gold) drops is clueless, then so be it.
Poly
Hi Illi. Both you and I follow and listen to Rogers advice from time to time. I know that for a fact because we have discussed it before. But it is not my business nor my place to repeat what Rogers says. I read his view frequently, I subscribe to Marc Faber and Robert Precther monthly, and there are many other people I also subscribe to, respect and read but that doesn't mean I am going to repeat their opinions here. These people give me a different reading aspect but in the end I write on this blog what I am waiting for reading price action. I am a fundamentals but I never write in depth fund,emerald analysis here. I do not do it for stocks nor sugar nor silver. It is everyone's job to do that on their own and without being spoon fed.
ReplyDeleteRegarding PMs, I have been very cautious in the last few posts. not outright bearish, but just caustious. I have told people to stay cautious despite abundance of bulls running around predicting $1900 or $2000 levels.. I am not buying any PMs right now I haven't bought any PMs since early August of this year. I have repeated that many times. I have even stated in the article above that COT is too high and many things do not yet line up for me to buy.
Furthermore, I have been warning about group think on Gold for awhile now as everyday on TV "gurus" are predicting $2000 Gold because of Fed action and yet it is going south, so whenever "favourable" news dominate an asset conditions and yet that same asset fails to make a new high on the "favourable" news, it is a major warning signal that not all is well with the trend. So gold bugs have received QE3 and QE4 promising them in excess of $1 trillion per year in balance sheet expansion, but PMs cannot stage a rally and are being liquidated. It seems to me that not all is well with the GOLD bull market.
So to me, yes I make comments about DSI, but I tell people that is short term. If you read carefully my lines, you will realise that while sentiment is negative short term, that doesn't mean price has to stop falling. The reason I write this is because there are MANY traders on this blog and not many investors. They are more interested in action then to sit tight and hold like I do. And since their want action, and short term trades, I do short term updates via my comments.
Having said all that, I'm not bearish either, because I never turn bearish in a secular bull market. Like I said, I am just caustious and admit there are headwinds unlike so many other perma bulls. But let me be ultra clear on one thing.... I am not selling my Slver at any price. Not at $30 not at $26 and not at $20 and not at $10 nor $5 (Silver cannot go to $0) and it doesn't worry me what happens between now and the ultimate bubble at the end of this secular bull market, because I own it outright and without leverage. If it falls a lot and I have profits on the side from shorting the stock market or I have sideline cash that can be used, I will buy more Silver. But I am not selling... not at any price. Not one ounce.
Those of you who follow this blog should easily understand the strategy here. I mean it is clear as day and night to me and judging by what Tiho regularly says and writes in his trading diary. We can see he is not sure weather or not inflation comes before deflation, so he has longs and shorts. Realistically, he is hedged. Whichever one occurs first, eventually the goal is to hold PMs for the final run up.
Deletewow gary got into the stock market one day before mini flash crash. ha, that guy is true dumb money.
ReplyDeleteOnly his clients that pay him so they can lose their money are the dumb money.
DeleteI wouldn't make a big deal out of the current PMs action:as more and more people regain confidence in the stock market and in the monetary wizardry of Bernanke,PMs(which were a bit too crowded)get little love.The fact that this happens right after a QE announcement(clearly telegraphed and obviously discounted)is meaningless:it just helps in clearing sentiment even more.Of course they might decline even further,but for an actual collapse to occur,one would have to believe that all's well in the real economy and that the stock market is ready to go up 30% next year.Not to mention the fact that these are not the conditions conducive to a collapse:18 months of bear market,oversold readings and negative sentiment coupled with a wash out of weak hands at a time when excessive speculation has already been punished and cleared multiple times(autumn and winter 2011 and then summer 2012)all smell like another bear trap.I would argue we're unlikely to see sub 1600 gold.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.bespokeinvest.com/thinkbig/2012/12/20/bullish-sentiment-rises-to-highest-levels-since-february.html
ReplyDeleteThank you for all the input from everyone during a very volatile week for commodities, and especially metals. I will be updating the blog tomorrow morning Asian time with a new update regarding sentiment and breadth update for US stocks. I still remain of an opinion that we are on a cusp of a recession and a beginning of a equity cyclical bear market. *smile*
ReplyDeleteIt appears the bounce back off the market break in Nov trapped the bulls.
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